As an outsider, it’s interesting to see that not everyone from the local anime community approve of this finding. While the poster has a point, I really doubt the disgruntled fans would actually agree, regardless. =/
[...] Posted by: gia in News, Gossip, Anime Tags: odex, piracyThis is decidedly a rumor, but this blog offers what appears to be comments by an Odex employee named Stephen Sing – you may recognize his [...]
I’ve finally gotten some work done for Odex, heh. Edited the Battle Athletes OVA script last week… and in the process, I found out why the Odex subs have been so bad. They don’t translate from the actual Japanese dialogue, apparently. They get a Chinese translation script from Taiwan or Hong Kong, and have their people translate from that into English, introducing a large number of translation errors in the process. Kanzaki Akari says “Sugoi!” in one memorable scene in the third episode of the OVAs, which their translators transmogrified into “The wind is so strong here!”. Talk about reading too much into a line.
I just started on the Fushigi Yuugi OVA, the second one, and it seems the situation may be worse than I expected. They gave me an HKDVD to use as a reference, and it appears that in an amazing cost-saving move, they decided to copy the HK subs wholesale. Brilliant. It saves me a lot of work, though. I think.
Once Fushigi Yuugi is done (9 episodes of shoujo madness) I get to start work on Vandread, which looks really promising. And speaking of good animes, I just finished watching Scryed. IT WAS AWESOME. ’nuff said.
No respect for intellectual property and copyright laws? Sillypore, as a society is still lagging so far behind.
You want something? Pay for it… if Odex’s DVDs suck, there are other options to import. Sillypore is not restricted by region coding. Don’t give stupid excuses for being cheapskates and start blaming everyone but yourselves for resorting to the easy but illegal way out. You knew you were doing something illegal, now grow up and be responsible for your actions. If you think you are right and Odex is wrong, go ahead and fight them in court.
Comment by Odex sucks but so do you— August 15, 2007 #
Woot some people dunno the culture of anime I guess. How the anime get the chance to be licenced by company… Those are the work of fansubber introducing their Japanese language only anime to foreign anime fan… And that where they got popular and company start grabbing it to broadcast or sell vcd/dvd. And apparently Japanese side supported fansubber… But I believe many are like myself getting more worried about downloading unlicenced anime that got licenced by odex But no longer download them………
He even misspelled suing as ‘sueing’. MY GOODNESS. Been reading up on this whole Odex thing and really hoping that no one I know gets caught for this. Odex is really, really killing their future chances of any Singaporean anime fan ever buying from them again. Hey maybe that’s why they’re doing this…they realised that their products are of sub-par quality and there’s no future in this business. So they recoup losses by suing people who just wanted an anime fix that Odex didn’t provide. When fansubbers do better than a company that does it FOR A LIVING, you know that company can’t survive anyway.
And to the ‘Odex sucks but so do you’ guy…don’t forget that not all are financially blessed as you seem to be, since you speak so easily of other import options. A lot of anime fans can’t afford to do this and what’s more, they won’t be able to afford Odex’s fines, either.
[...] and found the face of poor old SS (actually not old, he looks just like a regular Otaku in fact). Atarashi Prelude’s blog post became famous and the picture found on the paper was screenshotted from [...]
the provocations he made in his comment is enough to turn every anime fan into serial killers….and he said he was”shocked” that his “comments” attracted so much attention…well that smart alec nw noes who he is up against…its a 1:100 argument…if it gt heated up..who will win?…so idiot…thinking wont kill u….so think…while u still have the chance…or shld i say u still MIGHT have the chance….
Say, erm… that image in the back of the picture, it’s the ‘Warhammer 40k’ logo. I’ve never been to Singapore, but I know of only one place in Singapore that sells Warhammer and that’s Paradigm Infinitum. So I did some digging (i.e. typed it into google :D) and came up with some links, one of which refers to Paradigm as ‘Stephen Sing’s Store’.
There are also multiple references to him on their Warmachine leaderboards.
So can anyone confirm or deny whether he’s part of the staff/owner or just plays games regularly at the place?
I’m a dedicated warmachine player and I’m embarrassed to share my hobby with this piece of crap.
[...] he had “carelessly left traces of himself gloating about his deeds“. Atarashii Prelude, posted up additional information on Stephen that had been sourced from multiple community sites, including [...]
[...] main in Singapore’s anime community’, with anime fans putting up his photographs and personal information onto the internet, making wanted posters of him, posting pictures of his wife on the internet, [...]
To All those who are sued by ODEX, Do read clause 6. once signed ….u admit to all. next thing u know microsoft, warner brothers, RIAA, BSA …will come knocking on your door to ask u to pay fine for downloading their music, software, etc…
If 1000 users sued individual pay to a team of dedicated lawyers, each user paying 3k to a team of lawyers. Frankly this will sure motivate the lawyers to work real hard for ur case.
threating sing online will not work but all those sued must stand together.
Now we need to elite lawyers to stand forward and lend a hand and be famous.
It is sad that the once legal fansub is now illegal. Odex should do some soul searching as why ppl are downloading latest anime online. Look at the anime in the video stores here in SG. They are old, slow, very expensive & bad quality (VCDs). Let alone the poor selection of anime. We are all anime fans just like the distributor (I hope). Let’s settle this in a nice way & not take it to court. A lot can’t afford the fine. So what are you going to do? Forcing them to a dead end so they’ll go hang themselves?
And I personally feel the internet subscribers should not reveal the names though the court said so. Where’s our privacy, our rights? Are they also trying to anger their subscribers? Think about it.
THose who have received the letter and planned not to give in to their blackmailing threats. Pls stand together, go join the Official Anti Odex Club, chip in funds and employ leaders and lawyers to stand by our side!
It will become another NKF scandal, history has shown us; mass populace can shift opinion, even at corporate level!!
I have a strong believe that this person want to follow his idol Stephen King, the famous director specialized creating horror movie. Stephen Sing want to create horror story for all anime fans especially in Singapore.
I just hope he didn’t end up and doing silly thing like Stephen Chow :) (no offense Chow is great actor) which is only making unfunny joke and end up as a silly clown :)
lol shin wtf hav u done? u made a man go into hiding lolololololololol now the entire anime society in sg wan to him. so proud to be ur junior lolololololol fellow otaku come live in m’sia coz what happened in sg wont happen in m’sia. M’sia Bureaucracy FTW!
Come on guys… and IP address can’t get urself convicted. They need more evidence than that. I believe they dun dare to take u to court. They use media to scare the shit out of u. U scared? Pay up. U not scared? Next pls!
First they can’t prove how they got ur IP address. Cos they have to join in the Seed and download. Which means they are doing it illegally. And secondly, that doesn’t prove u had fully downloaded the anime and watch it. It jus be explained as an “accident” and u just cancelled the download halfway. 3rd, They dun have ur PC. How to prove? Raid ur house? So easy to get warrant? Once u get the letter, probably had deleted the animes if u refuse to comply. They probably won’t waste anymore time on u. If u guys wanna be safe, watch it streamed online or buy the originals!
[...] most hated main in Singapore?s anime community?, with anime fans putting up his photographs and personal information onto the internet, making wanted posters of him, posting pictures of his wife on the internet, [...]
seriously, with subs like theirs, even a 3 year old will know where and how to get better subs. odex subs does not include
-sidenotes on refrences to japanese culture
-and they DIRECTLY translate from HK/taiwan( or any other chiense subs for that matter) subs. therefore they save money for their golden toiletbowl/golden tap instead of spending them on translator who actually know japanese
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Mailing Address(line2): International Plaza
Mailing Country: Singapore
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Administrative Contact and Billing Contact will not be shown in the above WHOIS
This move is in-line with national and global efforts to curb SPAM.
Technical Contact details will still be available for troubleshooting of
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Any party who has legitimate reason to obtain email address or phone numbers of
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PAP – People Action Party: Please to some action to this rogue company. People mean us “Online Anime Fans”, Action means the things we do, Party means the “SG Online Anime Community”
Comment by Oversea Anonymous Anime Fan— August 21, 2007 #
just to note, so downloading what they distro is wrong. but does he download them himself ? very big question. then if he uses pacnet at home, and pacnet hands the list of IPs and it has his own. so does he Fines himself ? lol just a humble though
What a wanker. This guy is asking for a beating or two from some enraged anime fan. When I was a kid in secondary school in Singapore we used to scratch unpopular teachers’ cars. I wonder what car is this guy driving…
Comment by Miss Stephanie Sing Xin Yang— August 22, 2007 #
challenge them and see what they say. they cannot prove anything.
btw, my lawyer friend said if the ppl didnt pay and challenged odex, they will realise that odex do not have enough grounds to sue.
please read this for those who received the odex letter and understand better where you stand before or after paying the settlement. which really, doesnt make much difference except you are a few thousand dollars poorer:
Which basically says that odex is only a sub liscencer for all their animes SAVE GUNDAM SEED DESTINY…which means they lack the authority to sue ppl…as said by District Judge Ernest Lau where “He has also written that only copyright holders themselves or its exclusive licensee can make such copyright claims, and that he is not satisfied with the evidence that was harvested by BayTSP for identification of downloaders.  Out of all the animes licensed to Odex, only Mobile Suit Gundam SEED’s license was granted exclusively to the company. Lau also notes that out of the 13 letters of authorisation presented in court 10 of them authorised AVPAS, not Odex, to act for the copyright holders.”
Also….Thomas Koshy, a legal academic said ” questioned the legality of Odex making such legal claims and the threat of criminal prosecution (as stated in the legal letters to downloaders), as only the powers to prosecute rests with the Attorney-General or delegated by fiat. Only government institutions or bodies may prosecute people for criminal offenses; Odex, however, is a commercial entity as is the Anti-Video Piracy Association of Singapore (AVPAS) which it is issuing the letters on behalf of and hence cannot enact legal action on the said law. The Intellectual Property Office of Singapore (IPOS) takes an anti-piracy stance, however, has not yet prosecuted people under criminal law on behalf of Odex yet, nor has it stated that it will. The author also notes that in addition to never having been used, the law cited by Odex in its letters was never intended by IPOS to target the man-on-the-street, but rather prosecute people pirating for monetary gain (i.e. reselling of pirated goods for profit).”
SO GG ODEX!
P.S ODEX AINT GOT THEIR FILTHY HANDS ON NARUTO SO FELLOW NARUTO FANS LIKE ME…REJOICE!!!!
Yes, Stefan hangs out at the store. Or should I say “used to” hang out at PI. He is however not the store owner. Please be clear of that. He is just another customer at the store.
If you all have doubts about this, you are welcome to drop by the store and I can explain to your the long spotty history of Gaming in Singapore.
[...] in Singapore on a more worldwide scale. Talking of Singapore, he’s more on… The story. A director of Odex gloating on a forum about the money he’s getting from anime fans. I really hope it doesn’t come to something similar to the above in the UK. It might since even [...]
its over in a sense, pacnet gave them full access to the IPs as they had backing from the japanese companies. but no fear! even if they have IP they cannot take legal action against you. as long as u restart your router, they cannot tell which computer downloaded the information, running on a router it could be anyone in your area who used your router to download, including someone who lives near you. several cases were hit back this way(though not in singapore). it should work here in singapore anyway…
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